Curse

Zahr Dalsk · Feb 19, 2008, 04:09 AM // 04:09

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How do you get Curses to 12 and Healing and Protection to 9 at the same time?

You probably didn't do the attribute point quests and are missing 15-30 points.

Trvth Jvstice · Feb 19, 2008, 04:28 AM // 04:28

Moloch Vein--I play with pugs, sorry I should have made that clear in my post. As the sole nec in a pug would you use an echo ss build or a build using assassin's promise? And if you were to use Assassin's Promise, what curse skills would you use ?-I know, the average pug wont have any idea what I'm doing, but I'd really like to know your opinion.

Moloch Vein · Feb 19, 2008, 11:53 AM // 11:53

If I'd play with an "average pug" I'd definitely run an echo SS. The average pug believes that elementalists are the kings of damage dealing and do not run enough physicals for a MoP build to be really worthwhile. The average pug will have physicals running around with Fiery Dragon Swords refusing to swap. The average pug runs tank-n-spank and are scared to death of aggro breaking from their precious obsidian warrior.

An Ursan-centered group will have no or limited physical damage.

A tank-ele-necro-monk group will have no or limited physical damage.

A B/P group will have physical damage. That's your best bet... if you can find any of those nowadays.

This was the main reason I didn't put any time in explaining this build in this admittedly "newbie" necro guide.

Calista Blackblood · Feb 19, 2008, 05:51 PM // 17:51

great guide moloch

was bored the other night and put this together after lots of alliance members asking about necros,just an animation skill quick reference template

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[skill]Animate Bone Fiend[/skill][skill]Animate Bone Horror[/skill][skill]Animate Bone Minions[/skill][skill]Animate Flesh Golem[/skill][skill]Animate Shambling Horror[/skill][skill]Animate Vampiric Horror[/skill][skill]Jagged Bones[/skill][skill]Malign Intervention[/skill]

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[ skill]Animate Bone Fiend[/skill][ skill]Animate Bone Horror[/skill][ skill]Animate Bone Minions[/skill][ skill]Animate Flesh Golem[/skill][ skill]Animate Shambling Horror[/skill][ skill]Animate Vampiric Horror[/skill][ skill]Jagged Bones[/skill][ skill]Malign Intervention[/skill]

might be of use for your first post

Cyb3r · Feb 21, 2008, 10:44 PM // 22:44

litle flaw in you're build it's impossible to run 2 elites in a build the only time you will have dual elites is when capping one when you allready had an elite on you're skill bar but as soon as you reach an outpost or town one will vanish from the bar.

And on another note there are so many minion possibilities on the bar that you have no way to keep them all alive and overall fleshgolem remains bad especially cause an elite should be the best skill on you're bar and you're not actually getting much out of a flesh golem (seen that thing a couple of times stuck in various places on the map and not attacking at all etc etc when someone else in my team used it)

But to the Op nice guide for newbies

Fuzzy Taco · Feb 22, 2008, 12:25 AM // 00:25

Cyb3r, that was just a template of all the skills that can be used to animate a minion (or two.) it's not a serious build.

Calista Blackblood · Feb 22, 2008, 12:34 AM // 00:34

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Originally Posted by Cyb3r

litle flaw in you're build it's impossible to run 2 elites in a build the only time you will have dual elites is when capping one when you allready had an elite on you're skill bar but as soon as you reach an outpost or town one will vanish from the bar.

And on another note there are so many minion possibilities on the bar that you have no way to keep them all alive and overall fleshgolem remains bad especially cause an elite should be the best skill on you're bar and you're not actually getting much out of a flesh golem (seen that thing a couple of times stuck in various places on the map and not attacking at all etc etc when someone else in my team used it)

But to the Op nice guide for newbies

please read my post. i stated that it was nothing more than a reference for animation spells.

Hatchet Child · Feb 27, 2008, 05:52 PM // 17:52

Moloch you should really put your BarbsSinMoPromise build somewhere.
I've never used such a kick ass curses build without a curse elite.

Moloch Vein · Feb 28, 2008, 04:36 PM // 16:36

Added the Mark of Pain nuker to the miscellaneous post. Added some further synergy discussion.

[EDIT] I am waiting to update this guide to compensate for the drastic changes to the N profession skills. I want to see what's coming from it first and in which ways these skills will be further changed.

Matix411 · Mar 13, 2008, 02:17 AM // 02:17

Sigh ... so much to learn.

Been thinking about rolling a Necromancer, but every time I do I want to bust out a sword and bleed someone to death.

This has been a very, VERY informative thread. Encouragement ftw.

Trvth Jvstice · Mar 13, 2008, 03:33 AM // 03:33

Amen! I suppose every player will find a profession they Really enjoy, but if you enjoy knowing you have made a huge difference in the Mission/Quest-whatever, you're doing, the Necromancer, when played correctly, will always be at the top in whatever group you're in. A good Necro can, make warriors weak, make Monks ineffective, make enemy casters kill themselves. A mediocre Minion Master can overrun an enemy, a mediocre Spiteful Spirit Necro can destroy enemy mobs. Let's just say, try playing a Necro, you'll love it.

jamnog · Mar 25, 2008, 10:50 PM // 22:50

Order of undeath, my choice of elite for the mm armor ignoring damage from a safe distance controllable with mystic regen or some of those nice rit you mention skills even at a low attrib. nice guide and interesting comments pleasure to read, thanks.

Trvth Jvstice · Apr 19, 2008, 02:06 AM // 02:06

Moloch, I've been using Technobabble on the N/A Assassin's Promise MoP nuker build. Mine only gives Dazed for 3 seconds at rank 3 - at rank 10 it's only Dazed for 6 seconds. After extensive use, I'm thinking [skill]atrophy[/skill] might be better, what do you think?

Moloch Vein · Apr 19, 2008, 10:22 AM // 10:22

Dazed for three seconds is enough. Dazed for six seconds is a lot. If you time it right you'll catch the hex removal skill with it. Technobabble is also an interrupt in itself (it does damage which interrupts as it inflicts dazed.)

I'd recommend upping your Asuran rank to 4 seconds daze.

I think your main problem is not running enough physicals?

By the way the synergy example I presented is broken now

Never Surrender got "fixed".

Trvth Jvstice · Apr 19, 2008, 12:41 PM // 12:41

Thx, I didn't realize in was an interrupt also, so of course I'll keep it.

About physicals: No my HH team kicks total ass, I was just checking to see if my build could be tweaked any. Thanks for your response.

EDIT: Just looked at Dazed on wiki, I knew the effect made it take twice as long to cast spells, but I didn't know it made your spells easily interrupted.

Hatchet Child · Apr 19, 2008, 01:54 PM // 13:54

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Originally Posted by Trvth Jvstice

Just looked at Dazed on wiki, I knew the effect made it take twice as long to cast spells, but I didn't know it made your spells easily interrupted.

If you want a longer time without Grinding for Asuran points, Get a Spear and Curses focus. With a Silencing Speadhead for a nice 33% longer Daze duration.

Moloch made me get one

BloodyGensou · Apr 22, 2008, 11:02 AM // 11:02

Moloch Vein, am newish to the game. i only have proph (althou l8er this week i will have factions) anyways. am currently level 10 running N/Me build, its doing great in PVE. but in PVP its getting spammed really hard. am like the first thing the enemies run 2!! could you please suggest a way that i can, deal bring a warrior down to 50% or lower, b4 he gets to me. if i can do that, then with luck my team m8s can do the rest lol. thanks

BloodyGensou · Apr 22, 2008, 11:04 AM // 11:04

Moloch Vein, am newish to the game. i only have proph (althou l8er this week i will have factions) anyways. am currently level 10 running N/Me build, its doing great in PVE. but in PVP its getting spammed really hard. am like the first thing the enemies run 2!! could you please suggest a way that i can, deal bring a warrior down to 50% or lower, b4 he gets to me. if i can do that, then with luck my team m8s can do the rest lol. thanks

Moloch Vein · Apr 23, 2008, 12:59 PM // 12:59

I would suggest getting your character to level 20 before you start doing pvp.

Moloch Vein · Apr 23, 2008, 04:23 PM // 16:23

I also would like to note that I'm planning to update this sticky extensively after May 1st. This will bring it up to the new bbcode and adjust for the recent, quite extensive, skill balances done by Arenanet. I see no reason to change anything before the claimed reversion of the last skill balance, since nobody knows what that will bring.

Summary speaking a small portion of the sticky is outdated and will be changed soon.